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Fiasco Llana
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Posted - 2012.09.21 22:49:00 -
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The drop ships are seriously the weakest thing in the game right now and have so many bugs I don't even know where to begin.
1: Orbital Strikes can target a dropship inside the main spawn. This is very annoying. As if getting lit up by swarms isn't enough, I go to my spawn, land, get out, start repairing with my buddies, orbital strike comes down and hits us IN OUR MAIN SPAWN. In the red zone. Not sure if stupid, or a glitch.
2: Spawning in a dropship, get in it, only to have it explode for absolutely no reason. Makes no sense. Happens at the start of the game.
3: Spawning in a dropship, get in it, take off, fly for about 3 seconds and expode for no reason. Happens to me pretty much every game now. Happens at the start of the game.
4: Repair tool hurting the drop ship instead of repairing it, and then punish me -75 points per repair. Seriously, destroy my dropship, and punish me? Repair tool is for repairing, not damaging.
5: Gunners able to shoot the side of my drop ship and tilt me 90 degrees while they jump out to safety. By far the most annoying thing about drop ships. Gunner shoots one rocket tilted all the way to the side of the ship, and it hits the dropship, plummeting me into the earth.
6: Swarm missiles vs. dropships are unbalanced. For higher level dropships with upgrades this doesn't matter as much. But one volley of missiles and a militia ship is dead. I think they should be a tad stronger or the militia modules for shield reducted damage should be higher in exchange for a higher use of CPU/GPU.
7: Punishing me for my ship being destroyed. This is also stupid. I never get any negative points when I destroy my LAV.
8: taking 95% damage from the worlds softest landing is the stupidest thing I've seen yet. Okay, maybe it's not 95% but when I watched the trailer, that guy landed the drop ship harder then I do and he didn't take damage. The only way to prevent this is to find a straight away and land it like a plane, which often isn't possible to find and increases the chance of running into something during the slide.
9: There is no reward for drop ship pilots. +35 or whatever you get per assist? Yeah, at the end of the game piloting my drop ship around, picking up and dropping off troops at my own risk, often taking heavy damage from everyone and their mother, and I only get 782 SP. I think when someone spawns on you you should get +25. And if someone drops out and takes an objective or installation say within, a minute, you should get the same amount of points that he does.
EDIT: Took out the insult to CCP, that wasn't very nice. Took out old number 7 completely. Placing a tank on a hill to hit me is valid I suppose. I still think it's kind of cheap though. |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.21 23:01:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Did you forget about lavs?
Lavs dont explode when you spawn them in. Lavs dont explode when you drive them (You know what I mean.) Lavs actually stand a chance against a tank. Lavs dont flip when someone fires a missile. |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.21 23:17:00 -
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Sparten 269 wrote:http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=Lrr_VVtyUA8&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DLrr_VVtyUA8
fail. |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.21 23:29:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Did you forget about lavs? Lavs dont explode when you spawn them in. Lavs dont explode when you drive them (You know what I mean.) Lavs actually stand a chance against a tank. Lavs dont flip when someone fires a missile. You get more hp, more turrets, and a tank can't hit you unless you fly low
Yeah because flying around at 20,000 feet is really going to help the team. I get 2 turrets, one on each side. So really its still one turret that I can favor at a time.
And if nobody cares, let's just remove dropships and put tanks back to the god mode vehicles they were last build. I'm sure you two would have a blast. You could sing songs and dance. |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.22 00:11:00 -
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Nzuku wrote:thats a interesting set of glitches and some bad ones too :( i also fly a militia drop ship atm, i haven't had any of those random blowing up problems luckily, its defiantly not a turret, forge, swarms taking you out as quick as you spawn? OR hitting an RDV, i sometimes get pretty close to them, scary stuff haha. The orbital strike should not be able to be used in the "red zone" IMO as its meant to be safe for your team, but realistically a strike from space can hit ANYWHERE, i guess this can be changed by having a shield damper or something to keep the safe area SAFE. I'd email CCP ( [email protected]) and tell them the bug with the repair tool, suggest about the orbital strike, suggest cant be hit in safe zone, dont whinge to them as it wont get anywhere just tell them polity :) as for tanks hitting you if its from a distance they can hit you with the degree of view, also i have seen tank go purposfuly on slops so they got better angels to hit me (smart tactic IMO) Good luck :)
Finally someone who's doesn't troll. The random blow ups always happen at the start of the match. And don't worry, I have another thread about how the RDV's track me down just to ram me. It's really infuriating.
If you think about it, an orbital strike would not be able to hit you from the red zone because (supposedly) our Space Station/Cruisers/Space army would be over that area protecting it. As well as there would probably be automated defense systems. Also the orbital strike dropper would have to tilt, causing the strike to come in at an angle, but it doesn't. It comes from straight above. So the only thing that would possibly explain that would be that they hacked our orbital strike dropper. Obviously I'm approaching this from the game's view and not the physics or game engine view.
I thought support was more for account problems and the like.
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Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.22 02:49:00 -
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I guess the game is punishing me for wanting to be a dropship pilot so badly. |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.22 23:21:00 -
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For number three it is always at the start of the game in the Red Zone. So I don't know.
For number two it just says that I committed suicide. |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.23 02:01:00 -
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Necrodermis wrote:ITT: people who can't fly drop ships complain about dropships exploding
dropships are on a very very fine line from being completely useless to overpowered. i love the physics of the drop ship. makes them feel like what they should. when the enemy has 4+ swarm launchers you should not feel safe one bit. having to continuously move or be butchered by tons of missiles.
one of the only things that can hit a drop ship besides being at the right angle with a forge gun with the appropriate lead. i have seen numerous times 30+ rockets trailing after a dropship that is never taken down. they are forced to stay busy while the enemy is useless with the kitten rocket launcher ready to be taken out by the workhorse assaulters.
if you give the dropships flairs, they will need to do something with kitten rockets to compensate, if they make them take a ton of damage they will be exactly like tanks were over powered except much faster.
ITT: People who instantly start off a post insulting someone are probably trolls. If you don't have anything nice to say don't say it.
You say drop ships are almost over-powered, then say that they are never safe. Makes perfect sense. |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.23 02:29:00 -
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Eloyie wrote:Drop ships are meant for infantry transport, not for raining death to ground targets. I think people just have the wrong idea about them since they are currently the only flying vehicle in the game.
Yeah I didn't say upgrade their offensive capabilities.
They are meant for transporting troops in and out of hot zones. For that reason they should be able to withstand a few swarms coming their way. Where did I say that they should be for raining death to ground targets? |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.23 17:14:00 -
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Kengfa wrote:Have had dozens of games going 30/0 in dropships. Anyone complaining just either, sucks at gunning, or sucks at flying.
Oh man that's nothing. I once went 1,000/0 only getting roadkills in drop ships. You must really suck if you only went 30/0.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwPLQ43JVYU
Brush Master wrote: "I consider myself an experienced pilot and have my Myron full decked out but even with the miltia ones, i have none of the problems posted. Learn to fly and stop complaining, they are not ment to be easy to fly. Yes there are minor things like swarms flipping you over, forge guns can instant explode weak ships and landing is a ***** with the new physics but the next build has some patches to help you new players."
I didn't say I had a problem flying them. I have a problem with glitches and bugs taking my 220k ISK ship from me for no reason. I'm not complaining, I'm providing devs with examples of what has happened to me. I am not a new player at flying drop ships. I didn't say swarms flipped me over. And if you could read, I never said anything about a forge gun.
Have I made you look like enough of a fool yet? Maybe you should read before you post, I think it would help a lot. |
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Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.23 17:38:00 -
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Name one that is a pilot error. It's the general question of "are drop ships under-powered" 220k ISK says it all? 220k ISK says 220K ISK, I don't know what you're tripping on. Please just get out of my thread? Pretty plz? We don't take kindly to druggies. |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.23 18:14:00 -
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Brush Master wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:The drop ships are seriously the weakest thing in the game right now and have so many bugs I don't even know where to begin.
1: Orbital Strikes can target a dropship inside the main spawn. This is very annoying. As if getting lit up by swarms isn't enough, I go to my spawn, land, get out, start repairing with my buddies, orbital strike comes down and hits us IN OUR MAIN SPAWN. In the red zone. Not sure if stupid, or a glitch.
2: Spawning in a dropship, get in it, only to have it explode for absolutely no reason. Makes no sense. Happens at the start of the game.
3: Spawning in a dropship, get in it, take off, fly for about 3 seconds and expode for no reason. Happens to me pretty much every game now. Happens at the start of the game.
4: Repair tool hurting the drop ship instead of repairing it, and then punish me -75 points per repair. Seriously, destroy my dropship, and punish me? Repair tool is for repairing, not damaging.
5: Gunners able to shoot the side of my drop ship and tilt me 90 degrees while they jump out to safety. By far the most annoying thing about drop ships. Gunner shoots one rocket tilted all the way to the side of the ship, and it hits the dropship, plummeting me into the earth.
6: Swarm missiles vs. dropships are unbalanced. For higher level dropships with upgrades this doesn't matter as much. But one volley of missiles and a militia ship is dead. I think they should be a tad stronger or the militia modules for shield reducted damage should be higher in exchange for a higher use of CPU/GPU.
7: Punishing me for my ship being destroyed. This is also stupid. I never get any negative points when I destroy my LAV.
8: taking 95% damage from the worlds softest landing is the stupidest thing I've seen yet. Okay, maybe it's not 95% but when I watched the trailer, that guy landed the drop ship harder then I do and he didn't take damage. The only way to prevent this is to find a straight away and land it like a plane, which often isn't possible to find and increases the chance of running into something during the slide.
9: There is no reward for drop ship pilots. +35 or whatever you get per assist? Yeah, at the end of the game piloting my drop ship around, picking up and dropping off troops at my own risk, often taking heavy damage from everyone and their mother, and I only get 782 SP. I think when someone spawns on you you should get +25. And if someone drops out and takes an objective or installation say within, a minute, you should get the same amount of points that he does.
Enjoy and let me answer your question, no they are not underpowered. 1: Just funny, its all fair with orbies. If your unlucky enough to get hit at the exact second your ship gets delivered and well your dumb enough to be standing in the light then you deserve to die. Read the first post again.2: Ya, sounds like the same reason as number 1, your calling in a ship while be red lined, being forged, calling it in near red line or well maybe you found a glitch but if such a thing existed, there would be a lot of threads on such. Read the first post again.3: See response two. See my first post again.4: Another glitch? that is an interesting one, must be very unique or its just you. Actually someone else posted the same thing, only with a tank instead.5: Annoying but any good pilot can easily recover. Do note that higher ships do seem to have better handling. Travel with an actual squad that knows that they are doing and you will be fine. Fair enough. 6: No they are not, ships are not ment to stand still vs swarms. Militia are miltia, stop expecting a flying tank. The dropships are for flying into hot zones, so yes it should be a flying tank.7: Another rant? your good at that. 8: ROFLMFAO Really Ominous F*** Likes Making Obdurately Assinine Observations.9: Yes it would be nice to get more assist stuff which I hear is coming but obviously you don't have good gunners. Sounds like you got so much bad luck. Fiasco Llana wrote: EDIT: Took out the insult to CCP, that wasn't very nice. Took out old number 7 completely. Placing a tank on a hill to hit me is valid I suppose. I still think it's kind of cheap though.
How nice of you.
You want to read the first post again or give up now while you're behind by a ton and not by a sh*t ton? |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.23 18:24:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:More HP would be nice, as a troop transport vehicle, the dropships are too fragile. There should also be a turretless variant with even more HP.
Exactly what I was thinking. Make a variant for only transport, massive shield or hp (depending on variant) and make it a tad faster. |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.23 23:01:00 -
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This is getting f***ing ********. I'm so sick of landing and dropship the getting blown up. Dear CCP, Why the f*** does my dropship scrape and slide against the god damned ground and explode? WHY PUT A DROPSHIP IF YOU CANT EVEN LAND THE ******* THING
I hate bashing on CCP but damn, get your freaking act together.
EDIT: I posted this right after this happened to me twice in a row. So I was pretty mad. Bro. |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.23 23:05:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:This is getting f***ing ********. I'm so sick of landing and dropship getting blown up. Dear CCP, Why the f*** does my dropship scrape and slide against the god damn ground and explode? WHY PUT A DROPSHIP IF YOU CANT EVEN LAND THE ******* THING
I hate bashing on CCP but damn, get your freaking act together. Dropship = people DROP out of it
Oh yeah, how do you pick people up then? Hurr durr.
Dropship = Able to land the thing with force. I landed it like a Kitten landing on a silk pillow. |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.23 23:09:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:This is getting f***ing ********. I'm so sick of landing and dropship getting blown up. Dear CCP, Why the f*** does my dropship scrape and slide against the god damn ground and explode? WHY PUT A DROPSHIP IF YOU CANT EVEN LAND THE ******* THING
I hate bashing on CCP but damn, get your freaking act together. Dropship = people DROP out of it Oh yeah, how do you pick people up then? Hurr durr. Hover inches above the ground and get flipped by swarm missiles. |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.23 23:13:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Hold it stable via a decent tank and skill amount
I have a heavy armor on the damn thing. Still gets flipped when I try and hover and get hit by swarm missiles. Even if I'm tilting the Stick in the same direction the missiles are coming in from.
And then you need to repair, you going to hover it in the air put it on auto--pilot, jump out, and repair it? |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.24 03:39:00 -
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Typo Name wrote:I never had a problem with anything but #9.
- Don't fly like an idiot
- Don't use dropships when they aren't necessary
Aww, you mean I should intentionally crash my ship into the mountain? |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.24 03:58:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:Typo Name wrote:I never had a problem with anything but #9.
- Don't fly like an idiot
- Don't use dropships when they aren't necessary
Aww, you mean I should intentionally crash my ship into the mountain? Yep
With you in it and bail out. |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.24 17:49:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:Typo Name wrote:I never had a problem with anything but #9.
- Don't fly like an idiot
- Don't use dropships when they aren't necessary
Aww, you mean I should intentionally crash my ship into the mountain? Yep With you in it and bail out. Nope, i force you into the gunner seat at hmg point
Fiasco Llana ain't afraid to die br0! She'll just put on her uber cloak and slice your throat. :P |
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Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.25 04:25:00 -
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I tested out landing the dropship in our MCC spawn for one whole game. It seems my dropship explodes when I land it no matter how soft the landing is. Used about 7 militia dropships testing it out.
You know how when you get close to the ground it forces the dropship to hit the ground? Well I started tapping L1 when it got to that point, perfectly level ground, no enemies able to hit me, literally centimeter by centimeter each time I landed, and around the 6th time it ALWAYS exploded. This is how I landed the dropship every time. Unless nothing happened.
1st dropship: Exploded after the 4th landing. 2nd dropship: Exploded after the 6th landing. 3rd dropship: Exploded after the 6th landing. 4th dropship: Exploded after the 2nd landing 5th dropship: Exploded after noob team-mate hijacked it and didn't know how to fly it, crashing into a mountain. Thanks TROLLTHERTEEN. 6th Dropship: Exploded after the 6th landing. 7th dropship: Didn't explode even after going to the skycap, pointing the nose down, and crashing into the earth at a thousand miles per hour.
So it turns out CCP just clicks a button when they think you should die and lose your outfitted 300k ISK Dropship |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.25 04:39:00 -
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I've landed a couple upside down after rocketing to the earth like example 7 and not taken damage. I guess there called dropships for a reason. |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.25 16:19:00 -
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Sees-Too-Much wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:I tested out landing the dropship in our MCC spawn for one whole game. It seems my dropship explodes when I land it no matter how soft the landing is. Used about 7 militia dropships testing it out.
I've tried landing on the MCC and I've noticed that it's not completely solid. You sink into it a bit and start taking damage. Land on top of buildings, or behind your team's redline if you're wanting to practice landing.
You're kidding, right? |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.26 09:33:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Sees-Too-Much wrote:Fiasco Llana wrote:I tested out landing the dropship in our MCC spawn for one whole game. It seems my dropship explodes when I land it no matter how soft the landing is. Used about 7 militia dropships testing it out.
I've tried landing on the MCC and I've noticed that it's not completely solid. You sink into it a bit and start taking damage. Land on top of buildings, or behind your team's redline if you're wanting to practice landing. When landing I found it is best to sort of "hook" the dropship around. when coming down at more than preferable speeds quickly point the thrusters in the opposite direction and lay on the R1 button to boost thrust. Do this just before landing on the ground and it should turn your dropship around in a semi circle and help you land more safely
Nah, I just throw the motherfu**er into the ground because it takes less damage than if I were to land it softly. The only thing is I can't get out to repair because I still take damage when I land, still losing multi-thousand ISK dropships because of CCPs incompetence to fix anything in this game. |
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